2019-08-29 s1e4 MJS Career Fairs.mp3 was automatically transcribed by Sonix with the latest audio-to-text algorithms. This transcript may contain errors. Sonix is the best way to convert your audio to text in 2019.
Tyler:
Welcome to manager J.S.. It’s been a while. Today we’re talking about the career fairs that are coming your way.
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Tyler:
I’m sorry it’s been so long. A lot has happened. It’s been a crazy summer and I can actually tell you that I recorded a couple of casts in the time since my last one on this one, and I even had them scheduled to to post themselves because I was gonna be out of the office and I had it all ready to go. And I thought, “Am I posting this because it’s gonna be useful or am I posting it because I want to stick to a schedule and… I want to become part of people’s commute or habit to listen to podcasts. I need to I need to publish a podcast so that people listen to me.”.
Tyler:
And I wasn’t completely sure that the things I had prepared were useful. Instead, I was worried that perhaps I was doing it just because I like to meet goals. I have a goal and I like to fulfill my goals. And I had a goal to publish one every other week and I had it all recorded and ready to go and it even had some really funny stuff in it.
Tyler:
But I didn’t think I was doing it for the right reasons. So it’s in the can right now. It’s on my hard drive and maybe I’ll dust it off and edit out a piece that’s worth publishing, but I don’t want to publish things just because. So if I go dark, I don’t have something worth saying. And I’d rather pause for a while while I tend to my day job and my family and my own mental health. I’d rather pause than just maniacally publish.
Tyler:
Since the last time I have published, I’ve had Scout Camp. That was the cast that I had ready to go. I had that ready to go while I was out in the middle of the desert. It was gonna drop on its own. That was a week long scout camp.
Tyler:
I had a week long vacation to Bear Lake. Poor me. I know. But something did go wrong every day. As a matter of fact, the first day on the way to the vacation. I have this little tiny trailer. And, man, I did everything I could. It seems like every time I take a travel trailer out, because you don’t drive home often enough, you don’t wear out the tires. And so the tires…
Tyler:
Okay. Protip tires expire. Okay. So just because the tread looks good doesn’t mean it will not blow out on you. They have expiration dates on them. You have to learn how to read them. So I did everything I could to avoid catastrophe. I had replaced the tire. on my trailer and I neglected to re-torque the lugs.
Tyler:
And the wheel came off of the trailer! I was going 80 miles an hour. I was going the speed limit and it was on the way to Wyoming. And there’s a high speed limit there.
Tyler:
Because they always explode. I’m watching the tires. Left, right, left, right. Talking to my wife. Left, right. And I actually saw it pop off the trailer and the trailer thump down on the ground. And the only thing I was like, “well, I don’t know what to do, but I’m pretty sure I have to stop.”.
Tyler:
So I I slow down and pull over and my tire overtakes me. Long story short, nobody got hurt. And some people at big-O tires in Evanston really went out of their way to get us back on the road. Thank you so much to those people.
Tyler:
I should probably do this.
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Tyler:
Thank you. Big-O tires. Are they the ones that are, “A reputation you can write on big-o tire?” Yeah, that’s gotta be it. Well, those are really great guys. Got us back on the road. There were some times where they were definitely stumped because it did some damage to the hub and everything when it fell down. Tires aren’t supposed to come off at full speed. The wheels aren’t supposed to.
Tyler:
So the wheel came off and that was the first day. And then the second day I’m launching my dad’s boat with my daughter. Yeah, I know poor me. We have a boat that we have access to. It’s my dad’s and the battery was dead. And like an idiot, I had it floating out in the lake, drifting from shore. And it was not good. That was not good. The battery was dead.
Tyler:
And then the next day we had a flat tire on the van because we had driven on in the gore strip trying to get into town after the wheel flew off and they just took two days for it to get flat. And then the last day, because we didn’t stay a full a week, but the last day we had plumbing problems. I’ll just put it that way. And they were the bad kind. The bad kind. The kind that dads or whoever takes it on themselves has to, you know, suck it up and do things they’d rather not.
Tyler:
So that was my vacation, but funny enough. It was one of the best vacations I’ve had in a long time. By the end, as things were going wrong, I actually just kind of felt almost an out of body peaceful acceptance. It was like Zen like. So don’t know that I can recommend it. But, you know, after all of that, I know a whole lot more about torque wrenches and about how to properly torque your lug nuts. So always torque those lug nuts after you’ve after you’ve had a wheel replaced, taken off or rotated or whatever.
Tyler:
And then at work, I had a team reorg. — I know you all really care. I know you care. See, I told you I wasn’t going to publish unless I had something to say. Now I’m going through all of my excuses why I didn’t publish. But it’s been a great time. — We had a team reorg. That always takes some time to get used to. But it was time and I went to React Rally 2019. We use React at work and it was in Salt Lake City, so it’s nice and local for me.
Tyler:
And just today I spoke at Bottega for the first time. I’ve never spoken there before. I didn’t even know about them until recently. They are a non boot camp. They’re not a boot camp. Though, frankly, I don’t exactly know how they’re not. They are a 12 week programming course that you can do either 12 weeks all at once or you can do part time. That’s if you do it full time. Part time, it takes like a six to nine months. I spoke there today about what I look for as a recruiter, and I’d like to turn that into a video at some point and post that also here on on manager J.S.. I hired a guy recently from Bottega. Ryan is his name. And I’m really impressed with him. I’m pretty pretty sure he’s gonna be a good employee. But I just did that today and I would like nothing better than to go play some video games with my son or watch a TV show with my wife.
Tyler:
But. I have to draw your attention. You, I expect, are college students in the area. I have to call this out. This is time sensitive. You need to go and prepare for your job fairs. OK? I just had my assignments today. I know which job fairs I’m going to be attending and which universities I’m going to be doing interviews at.
Tyler:
I have just posted on ManagerJS.com, on the blog, a short article with some tips on how to prepare for the job fair. In the article I have links to the individual university job fair sites and their career services centers for the colleges that I recruit at in the Utah/Idaho area, that’s BYU, BYU-Idaho, the University of Utah, Utah State University, UVU, and Weber.
Tyler:
They are all from September 17th to mid-October. the latest one it looks like is October 11th. You can go there and look it up. You should look up when your job fair is and set aside time to go! That’s the most important thing. The most important thing I can say.
Tyler:
But I know I didn’t do it.
Tyler:
I mean, I was surprised as a student. Every time there was a job for I was like, “oh, my gosh, what was going on over there? A job fair? I know what to do… OK.” And because I wasn’t prepared and I was of a particular personality, I never really got much out of it. If I did anything, I wandered around and looked at stuff and thought, “OK, I’m glad I’m not done with school because that seems scary.” I’m going to tell you that was not the best way to make use of that job fair.
Tyler:
As an employer now — or representative of an employer — that attends these job fairs, I can tell you I’ve got some tips that I think would help you do better. The tips are spelled out with some details in that article. But just for the benefit of those of you that maybe only listen to the podcast. cover some of them.
Tyler:
Number one tip… Number one: Go! Seriously, go to the fair!
Tyler:
No matter what else happens, go. No matter what other ideas you have about what would be the ideal timing or how you could do it better… My brother– I had a brother– (I have a brother. He’s still my brother.) that when it came to dating, for example, he always had a reason why it wasn’t time: I’m not done with my degree. I don’t have a good job yet. I don’t have a house yet. And so he wouldn’t even date, let alone get into a serious relationship. Not the best plan. There is always a reason to not do it yet. I’m telling you, go to the job fair. Open your mouth. Talk to at least 5 employers and start doing that from the very first year of college. Do that every year. Do it before you’re ready. Do it now because you need to get used to it.
Tyler:
Now, for some of you, you’re like, “yeah, I got Tyler go to the job fair. That’s easy.”
Tyler:
But for a lot of people, they don’t want to and they don’t feel like they have to. And so they’re gonna put it off. And I ha– so many people that I meet. They’re just about ready to graduate. And they’re like, “OK, now I am in the step in my checklist for achieving career that says go to job fair. Right before graduation.” And they’re totally unprepared. I mean, they they were good students, but they’re not prepared to be good employees because there’s stuff that you just don’t learn in school. You need to get out there. You need to go to the job fair.
Tyler:
Create opportunity by talking to the employers. That’s number two. You need to talk to them. Don’t just wander around. It’s not meant for you to just read all of the signs and do passive research. You’re supposed to talk to the people that are there.
Tyler:
If you’re going to talk to the people that are there, you need to be prepared in case they’re interested in you to give an up to date resumé on request. So that’s number three. Have an up to date resumé and be prepared. They might set up an interview for you or you might ask for an interview and get one. So be prepared to commit to an interview, even if you think it’s too early to interview, even if you’re thinking I’ve only been in school for two years. I’m not ready.
Tyler:
Believe me, as long as you’re upfront with them about where you are in the process and your resumé, they’re not going to just hand out interviews. willy nilly When you got no business interviewing with them. And if they do and you go to the interview and you’re completely unprepared, I mean, OK, that’s fine. That was a good experience. But I’ll wager that that does not happen nearly often enough to be afraid of it as a possibility.
Tyler:
Interview even if you think it’s too early because it’s way better to interview a little too early and then interview exactly at the right time than to interview too late because by definition, it’s too late now to interview at the right time. You’ll learn something every time you interview.
Tyler:
Research the employers. (That’s the fifth tip.) Research the employers and be intentional about the booths that you visit. Your career services center is most likely going to have a list of expected employers, of people that are scheduled to be there, go through that list and see which ones seem to fit with what you want to do or just are interesting. And visit those booths intentionally. Instead of just being a completion list and saying, “well, there’s this many aisles. So I’ll just wander up and down all of the aisles and say, ‘I’ve gone to the career fair, I’ve gone to the job fair.'” Don’t do that.
Tyler:
Prepare yourself. Know which booths you’re going to do during a visit. And then when you get to those booths, you’ll say, “ah, this is the moment to talk.” Instead of just saying, “oh, well, I’m supposed to talk to them.” And then the whole time wondering “is, is this going to be the one that that I’m interested enough to talk to?”.
Tyler:
And if you have the opposite problem where you talk to everybody, you still need to manage your time. You still need to know which people are worth talking to for you. So research the employers. When I say research, that doesn’t have to be a long thing. I mean, this is something you can do in two minutes or less. So don’t let that intimidate you.
Tyler:
Once you know which employers you’re going to visit, number six, ask well-informed questions. This is gone above and beyond. You know that you’re going to talk to, Johnson and Johnson or whatever. Do some research on what exactly they do in the particular locations that you’re interested in. If you come there with something ready to ask about beyond, “hey, uh, what do you do at your company?” I promise you, recruiters, they can tell when they get a good question. I mean, they’re there to answer questions. So if you just go up and say, “hey, what do you guys do?” They’re prepared to answer. But if you have done some research and you can ask a little bit better question, so much the better. Ask well-informed questions.
Tyler:
If you do get an interview, number seven, keep those commitments! OK? Don’t just sign up for interviews and then don’t show up. Normally, those interview spots are very precious. There’s people that want to interview. When you take that spot and don’t show up, there’s people that wanted that interview and they can’t do it now. And it’s a bad impression. And you never know if people are going to remember that or not. But it’s still a bad impression and it’s a jerky thing to do.
Tyler:
And if you are going to interview, don’t just be there or not be there on time. Be on time. Because I often will say when people are like, hey, you know, they missed the first interview question. Because the first question is, “can you get places on time?” you have complete control of your life as a college student. I know you might think you don’t, but you do. And you can be on time if it matters to you. And that’s the first thing that I’m going to know. Did you come on time?
Tyler:
It’s not enough to get the job, but it’s enough to not get the job. And you need that time. You need that entire interview in order to get what you need out of it and for the employer to get what they need out of it. So be on time.
Tyler:
Finally, collect contact information both at the career fair, at the booths, and at the interviews. And be prepared to use that contact information within a week. Don’t just collect it in a shoe box and say I’ve been told to network and this is networking. I’ve got business cards that I keep in a shoe box. They’re not part of your network if they wouldn’t recognize you. So collect that information and use it within a week. If you got an interview, use it to send a thank you note: “Thank you. I really appreciate the time and the consideration. I enjoyed our interview.”
Tyler:
Or if you didn’t get an interview, then use it to ask a question. And still, maybe if they spoke to you for an extended period of time at the career fair cement that contact by thanking them. And maybe calling out the things that you most appreciated.
Tyler:
I even forgot to mention that I have one other thing that I. Honest to goodness, want to…
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Tyler:
That’s right. It is time for me to take a moment to tell you about something that is close to my heart without anybody asking me to. And this time it is eye surgery. I’ve had five eye surgeries and just two days ago, I had my fifth eye surgery. I want to just call out to Dr. Darcy Woolsey. She has been a wonderful surgeon for me. I’ve had all of those eye surgeries. (I needed all of them.) And she’s been great. She works at the Eye Institute of Utah in the Salt Lake Valley. Best place you can go, as far as I know. And I’m no expert, but I’ve trusted my eyes to her. Best place. You can go for cornea transplants, which I’ve needed, and Lasik, glaucoma treatments, all that kind of stuff. I love you, Dr. Woolsey, you have been so great for me. And I’m grateful that I can see so well out of that left eye. Thank you so much. Thank you. That has been the final for this time of.
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Tyler:
So I hope that you like what you’re learning. I hope that you’re settling into class. But don’t get too lost in class. You have to go to the job fair and it’s going to sneak right up on ya. If you don’t put it on your calendar and oh, yes, you do have a calendar that you can put important things on and they get done, right? I know that’s very hard for some people. But you need to do that.
Tyler:
I really hope that you’re enjoying what you’re learning. God bless. And I look forward to working with you someday.
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